English Translation: Theoretical and Practical - Golden Chain of Homer by Naxagoras

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I provided a guide on how to do this here. I will help and work with you, if you want. I will also proof-read. Let me know if you want help or would like me to help you make a pipeline. I can make a whole setup for you so that everything is processed privately on your computer and nothing goes out as well, you just need a good gpu and a good cpu, or you'll have to wait longer.


I think potentially preferred procedure would be to do a rough-draft, or general translation, using AI, then going back and confirming line by line. That makes the process and transcription much faster for basic, common sentences, and allows the translator to focus on the more complex or obscure phrases. This way it's still human-confirmed, but the machine translation does most of the heavy lifting.
Thank you, @ArgentSeeker . I have already transcribed more than half the document and hope to finish the rest today. If you are willing to proof-read, then I could send you the first half.
 

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I think potentially preferred procedure would be to do a rough-draft, or general translation, using AI, then going back and confirming line by line. That makes the process and transcription much faster for basic, common sentences, and allows the translator to focus on the more complex or obscure phrases. This way it's still human-confirmed, but the machine translation does most of the heavy lifting.
Yes, we are in agreement. If you read above a bit, I mention exactly what you say.
 

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My man! You are coming around to my style of thinking! :cool: This is what I was saying in reference to our discussion previously on Goossen van Vreeswijck's works. There will always be a place for a proper in-depth translation done with the utmost attention and care, but the machine translations are not bad, often "good enough" for most purposes, and improving by leaps and bounds as time passes.
Things have changed a lot since I did the Goosen van Vreeswyk transcription and translations, without using AI at all. AI would have saved me a lot of time, but it's transcriptions and translations are not yet perfect and still requires a human eye. But for this project, it should be more than adequate, otherwise the amount of labor involved would not be worth it, unless it was published.
 

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Here is a rough translation of the title, introductory parts and the first five pages. I have not checked the translation.

EXPERIENCE OF ANAXAGORAS,

ACCORDING TO THE PLATONIC RINGS,

AND

THE GOLDEN CHAIN

OF HOMER.

In which the true process to elaborate the universal medicine—both for the human body and for improving the metals—lies clearly and candidly before the eyes.

Frankfurt on the Main,

At the expense of good friends, and on commission with Dominico von Sand, 1723.​

The manuscript has hitherto remained hidden in curious hands, but has now been brought to light by a special lover for other lovers to have at a low price, and has been promoted for printing.

The whole process shows​

how very simple and plain nature is and how she works, and how art must thus imitate her if it does not wish to work against her, but rather successfully with her. Also an evident and sun-clear demonstration of how one thing proceeds from another, and how all our labors hang together, like a chain consisting of pure rings where one is linked into the other, and finally all of them together thus come forth for a useful purpose, or accomplish what they could not otherwise do individually. So that therefore the various preparations of our material are really nothing else than a single continued operation.

Whence Rasis says in the Book of Divinity: Know that the things of nature are bound together by a subtle artifice, so that in every single thing there is potentially any other thing whatsoever, although it may not be seen active in writing.

You, however, beloved Christian reader!​

You who are deemed worthy by GOD the Most High to get this manuscript into your hands and to behold it with your eyes: sharpen your understanding therein, and let your hands prepare the truth from it, which you will infallibly find. But guard yourself against making such an art common; seeing that, after the most holy redemption of the entire human race through the most holy blood of JESUS Christ, there is no higher secret on earth than this Hermetic Art, which therefore might with all right and reason be named The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. For this reason GOD has reserved this revelation entirely to Himself, to give it to one of His servants, to whomever HE will.

If you act against this heartfelt warning given to you by me, then may the curse of the philosophers be upon you, and I assure you that GOD will either withdraw His blessing from you therefor, or punish you with sudden death, so that you yourself may not enjoy the fruits which you wish to make common to an unworthy person. Whence the philosophers likewise conceal the materia and praxis of this mystery even from their own children.

Hoc tibi cape. [Take this to heart.]




A True and Faithful Account / of the Mystery

OF THE

PHILOSOPHER'S STONE,

and of the particular way resulting therefrom.

Concerning the remotest matter.
​

If one wishes to walk the ancient universal way of all philosophers to the greatest mystery—without which there is no higher one, and which justly leads to the true Philosopher's Stone—one must remain of steadfast resolve, and choose no other for the work than a mineral, nor any other than a saline one; and indeed specifically such a one as has never been any metal, yet nevertheless stands in the bowels of the earth like a mineral within its bounding walls and flanking layers, in striking or hanging veins, but as aforesaid, is neither a metal nor a mineral, but solely a salt and forma minerali imbutum [imbued with a mineral form], precisely like copper-smoke—that is, the true Minera Vitrioli or native vitriol (Vitriolum nativum).

Considering that other salts as well, such as saltpeter, alum, common and rock salt, or the like, are likewise dug out of the earth—nay, even according to Leurse in the Vortrab of his Chemical Theatre, pages 37 and 38, yield a very small amount of living mercury (Mercurio vivo)—yet they are nowhere and at no time found in the form of a mineral like vitriol, nor around and near all metals and minerals, much less regarded as a womb thereof; nor indeed can any metal be made out of them as out of vitriol, even if they were to lie in and under the earth for ever so long.

The word "mineral," however, is meant here to signify an underground matter in which a mineral luster and body can already be seen internally, as is the case in antimony, bismuth, zinc, cobalt, and the like; whereas in the minera or native vitriol this is not so. Vide A.

Just as the Philosopher's Stone is nothing else than a highly volatile, easily liquefying, and plus-quam-perfect salt-stone, so it must necessarily be made best from a salt; but, as mentioned more fully, from such a salt as is not only endowed with a mineral form, like vitriol, but is also grasped in its operation or complete course to become a metal.

Batsdorff reports on this on page 110 as follows: Just as our bodies were first a saline water, they must—after they are compounded and our principia separated from them—finally become a salt once again; inasmuch as the true universal tincture must unfailingly have such a property if it is to be useful as a salt of food to its brethren, the lesser metals, and to the human body.

And Rupescissa: Vitriolum, seu sal est tanquam principium remotissimum omnium metallorum. [Vitriol, or salt, is as it were the remotest principle of all metals.] If you can bring it back per reductiones to the materia prima, then you have what you ought to have.

Basil Valentine, that most esteemed philosopher, calls the matter for the great work on page 255—not only openly, but also this mineral on page 362—a coagulated mercury (Mercurium coagulatum), when he states: Thus coagulated mercury must be turned by art into water, just as he also further on the same page calls the oil distilled therefrom a mercurial water, when he writes: Thus the coagulated mercury must be brought by art into water, into its prima materia: hoc est, mercurial water; then it is a stone and yet not a stone, from which a volatile fire is made in the form of water, just as on page 360 he calls the vitriol prepared anew from this oil, instead of a philosophical vitriol, actually a philosophical mercury (Mercurium Philosophorum), when he writes thus:

Our Azoth is not common vinegar, but it is extracted through (or from) common Azoth, and from the materia prima (thus he calls the mercurial water or oil of vitriol) a salt is made, which salt is called the Mercury of the Philosophers, which was then coagulated in ventre terræ (that is, in Mars). As he further states: That when the matter comes to light, it is not expensive, but indeed heavy, has an odor of dead bodies, and one could purchase the same for 2 florins—which cheap time, however, has vanished.

And what is most especially to be observed in this author's writings stands on page 277, which every man might well write in golden letters upon his Jasper table and hang before his eyes at all times, namely:

See to it that from all metals, and especially from iron and copper—which are nevertheless entirely hard and nearly fixed metals—a vitriol can be made from each in particular. Now that is a reduction of a metal into a mineral, for minerals become metals; thus all metals were also once minerals in the beginning, which is why minerals are the proxima materia of the metals, but not the prima.

From this same vitriol further reductions may take place, so that through the power of fire a spirit is driven out. Now when such spirit has been driven off, there is once again at hand a reduction of a mineral into a spiritual essence, yet each spirit retains in its reduction the metallic property. (For the oil of vitriol has two spirits, a red and a white one.) But such a spirit is otherwise not yet the materia prima.

Who then could be so gross and absurd as not to further understand or believe how one may also bring and arrive at the prima materia, and finally to the seed itself, through such reduction and conversion of one thing into another—both of minerals and of metals, although it is not necessary to destroy the metals themselves, because one finds their seed completely naked, unfixed, and open in the minerals?

Oh GOD! in all eternity, what do such ignorant people imagine! Indeed, it is quite an easy and childish labor.

NB. One thing indeed proceeds from another, just as finally a loaf of bread is baked from the dear grain. NB. here one has from all this not only what the vera [true] as the remotissima materia is in Basil, but also how to arrive at the prima, scil. per reductiones [namely through reductions], and at the same time the reason why on the title page of our work I called our labor a single continued or continuing operation, because namely one thing must proceed from another.

Jacob Böhme, the Teutonic philosopher, says: This ore and stone is found in a crude shape, hence to most people it is a stone of offense, to which Chortolasseus adds on page 73: clothed in a pitiful gray smock; although in Hungary it is also found brownish-red, item in a white-gray spath. All sorts are good, provided it is a pure minera, and the vitriol found therein is not aluminous; yet Naxagoras's Concordance teaches on page [...] how such is to be separated from it.
 

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Thank you, @ArgentSeeker . I have already transcribed more than half the document and hope to finish the rest today. If you are willing to proof-read, then I could send you the first half.
Please do. I'll read it over the next two days and come back with notes. Feel free to pm me or drop a pdf/notepad here.
 

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Logistical Note

ArgentSeeker, perhaps it's not the best idea to post your email address on the public forum. Maybe PM it to Illen instead?
 

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Logistical Note

ArgentSeeker, perhaps it's not the best idea to post your email address on the public forum. Maybe PM it to Illen instead?
It's a 48 hour temporary email service. It will delete itself automatically when the time expires.
 

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Here is a rough translation of the title, introductory parts and the first five pages. I have not checked the translation.

EXPERIENCE OF ANAXAGORAS,

ACCORDING TO THE PLATONIC RINGS,

AND

THE GOLDEN CHAIN

OF HOMER.

In which the true process to elaborate the universal medicine—both for the human body and for improving the metals—lies clearly and candidly before the eyes.

Frankfurt on the Main,

At the expense of good friends, and on commission with Dominico von Sand, 1723.​

The manuscript has hitherto remained hidden in curious hands, but has now been brought to light by a special lover for other lovers to have at a low price, and has been promoted for printing.

The whole process shows​

how very simple and plain nature is and how she works, and how art must thus imitate her if it does not wish to work against her, but rather successfully with her. Also an evident and sun-clear demonstration of how one thing proceeds from another, and how all our labors hang together, like a chain consisting of pure rings where one is linked into the other, and finally all of them together thus come forth for a useful purpose, or accomplish what they could not otherwise do individually. So that therefore the various preparations of our material are really nothing else than a single continued operation.

Whence Rasis says in the Book of Divinity: Know that the things of nature are bound together by a subtle artifice, so that in every single thing there is potentially any other thing whatsoever, although it may not be seen active in writing.

You, however, beloved Christian reader!​

You who are deemed worthy by GOD the Most High to get this manuscript into your hands and to behold it with your eyes: sharpen your understanding therein, and let your hands prepare the truth from it, which you will infallibly find. But guard yourself against making such an art common; seeing that, after the most holy redemption of the entire human race through the most holy blood of JESUS Christ, there is no higher secret on earth than this Hermetic Art, which therefore might with all right and reason be named The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. For this reason GOD has reserved this revelation entirely to Himself, to give it to one of His servants, to whomever HE will.

If you act against this heartfelt warning given to you by me, then may the curse of the philosophers be upon you, and I assure you that GOD will either withdraw His blessing from you therefor, or punish you with sudden death, so that you yourself may not enjoy the fruits which you wish to make common to an unworthy person. Whence the philosophers likewise conceal the materia and praxis of this mystery even from their own children.

Hoc tibi cape. [Take this to heart.]




A True and Faithful Account / of the Mystery

OF THE

PHILOSOPHER'S STONE,

and of the particular way resulting therefrom.

Concerning the remotest matter.
​

If one wishes to walk the ancient universal way of all philosophers to the greatest mystery—without which there is no higher one, and which justly leads to the true Philosopher's Stone—one must remain of steadfast resolve, and choose no other for the work than a mineral, nor any other than a saline one; and indeed specifically such a one as has never been any metal, yet nevertheless stands in the bowels of the earth like a mineral within its bounding walls and flanking layers, in striking or hanging veins, but as aforesaid, is neither a metal nor a mineral, but solely a salt and forma minerali imbutum [imbued with a mineral form], precisely like copper-smoke—that is, the true Minera Vitrioli or native vitriol (Vitriolum nativum).

Considering that other salts as well, such as saltpeter, alum, common and rock salt, or the like, are likewise dug out of the earth—nay, even according to Leurse in the Vortrab of his Chemical Theatre, pages 37 and 38, yield a very small amount of living mercury (Mercurio vivo)—yet they are nowhere and at no time found in the form of a mineral like vitriol, nor around and near all metals and minerals, much less regarded as a womb thereof; nor indeed can any metal be made out of them as out of vitriol, even if they were to lie in and under the earth for ever so long.

The word "mineral," however, is meant here to signify an underground matter in which a mineral luster and body can already be seen internally, as is the case in antimony, bismuth, zinc, cobalt, and the like; whereas in the minera or native vitriol this is not so. Vide A.

Just as the Philosopher's Stone is nothing else than a highly volatile, easily liquefying, and plus-quam-perfect salt-stone, so it must necessarily be made best from a salt; but, as mentioned more fully, from such a salt as is not only endowed with a mineral form, like vitriol, but is also grasped in its operation or complete course to become a metal.

Batsdorff reports on this on page 110 as follows: Just as our bodies were first a saline water, they must—after they are compounded and our principia separated from them—finally become a salt once again; inasmuch as the true universal tincture must unfailingly have such a property if it is to be useful as a salt of food to its brethren, the lesser metals, and to the human body.

And Rupescissa: Vitriolum, seu sal est tanquam principium remotissimum omnium metallorum. [Vitriol, or salt, is as it were the remotest principle of all metals.] If you can bring it back per reductiones to the materia prima, then you have what you ought to have.

Basil Valentine, that most esteemed philosopher, calls the matter for the great work on page 255—not only openly, but also this mineral on page 362—a coagulated mercury (Mercurium coagulatum), when he states: Thus coagulated mercury must be turned by art into water, just as he also further on the same page calls the oil distilled therefrom a mercurial water, when he writes: Thus the coagulated mercury must be brought by art into water, into its prima materia: hoc est, mercurial water; then it is a stone and yet not a stone, from which a volatile fire is made in the form of water, just as on page 360 he calls the vitriol prepared anew from this oil, instead of a philosophical vitriol, actually a philosophical mercury (Mercurium Philosophorum), when he writes thus:

Our Azoth is not common vinegar, but it is extracted through (or from) common Azoth, and from the materia prima (thus he calls the mercurial water or oil of vitriol) a salt is made, which salt is called the Mercury of the Philosophers, which was then coagulated in ventre terræ (that is, in Mars). As he further states: That when the matter comes to light, it is not expensive, but indeed heavy, has an odor of dead bodies, and one could purchase the same for 2 florins—which cheap time, however, has vanished.

And what is most especially to be observed in this author's writings stands on page 277, which every man might well write in golden letters upon his Jasper table and hang before his eyes at all times, namely:

See to it that from all metals, and especially from iron and copper—which are nevertheless entirely hard and nearly fixed metals—a vitriol can be made from each in particular. Now that is a reduction of a metal into a mineral, for minerals become metals; thus all metals were also once minerals in the beginning, which is why minerals are the proxima materia of the metals, but not the prima.

From this same vitriol further reductions may take place, so that through the power of fire a spirit is driven out. Now when such spirit has been driven off, there is once again at hand a reduction of a mineral into a spiritual essence, yet each spirit retains in its reduction the metallic property. (For the oil of vitriol has two spirits, a red and a white one.) But such a spirit is otherwise not yet the materia prima.

Who then could be so gross and absurd as not to further understand or believe how one may also bring and arrive at the prima materia, and finally to the seed itself, through such reduction and conversion of one thing into another—both of minerals and of metals, although it is not necessary to destroy the metals themselves, because one finds their seed completely naked, unfixed, and open in the minerals?

Oh GOD! in all eternity, what do such ignorant people imagine! Indeed, it is quite an easy and childish labor.

NB. One thing indeed proceeds from another, just as finally a loaf of bread is baked from the dear grain. NB. here one has from all this not only what the vera [true] as the remotissima materia is in Basil, but also how to arrive at the prima, scil. per reductiones [namely through reductions], and at the same time the reason why on the title page of our work I called our labor a single continued or continuing operation, because namely one thing must proceed from another.

Jacob Böhme, the Teutonic philosopher, says: This ore and stone is found in a crude shape, hence to most people it is a stone of offense, to which Chortolasseus adds on page 73: clothed in a pitiful gray smock; although in Hungary it is also found brownish-red, item in a white-gray spath. All sorts are good, provided it is a pure minera, and the vitriol found therein is not aluminous; yet Naxagoras's Concordance teaches on page [...] how such is to be separated from it.
Good read, oil of vitriol we know as sulphuric acid. Can be made from vitriol of Melanterite or Chalcanthite which are forms of hydrated sulphates of iron and copper. It's basically saying that the prima materia is in Melanterite already which is FeSO₄ ⋅ 7H₂O.
 

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It's basically saying that the prima materia is in Melanterite already which is FeSO₄ ⋅ 7H₂O.
One of the reasons why certain vitriols were preferred, such as the Hungarian, is because it naturally included other precious metals within them. This was especially true in some older mines, where the hydrous sulfates would leach out other metals from within the fractures in the rock, so that iron vitriol was often also found to contain trace amount of copper, silver and gold. We have historical evidence for this, and its why the Hungarian was sought after (a few other regions also had similar "good quality" vitriols).

Abandoned mines, after a while, "30 years standing", would have enough time passed for the creation of substances like melanterite or chalcanthite.

The text later on goes into actual detail as to the process of how to work with the vitriol, to get the white and red, putrefy, and so on. It may be worthwhile to read Lawrence Principe's book on the secrets of alchemy to gain some very good insight into things surrounding antimony and the martian regulus - it can entirely be discarded as part of the operation in my opinion.

Edit: since you can make a pure melanterite or chalcanthite at home, in the lab, it would be useful to try the processes described in this book with that and see if it yields results. If it does not, it's likely entirely due to it missing those dissolved precious metals, i.e. it is not "living" vitriol, in which case it may be necessary to dope or doctor the vitriol with those precious metals to begin with.
 

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One of the reasons why certain vitriols were preferred, such as the Hungarian, is because it naturally included other precious metals within them. This was especially true in some older mines, where the hydrous sulfates would leach out other metals from within the fractures in the rock, so that iron vitriol was often also found to contain trace amount of copper, silver and gold. We have historical evidence for this, and its why the Hungarian was sought after (a few other regions also had similar "good quality" vitriols).

Abandoned mines, after a while, "30 years standing", would have enough time passed for the creation of substances like melanterite or chalcanthite.

The text later on goes into actual detail as to the process of how to work with the vitriol, to get the white and red, putrefy, and so on. It may be worthwhile to read Lawrence Principe's book on the secrets of alchemy to gain some very good insight into things surrounding antimony and the martian regulus - it can entirely be discarded as part of the operation in my opinion.

Edit: since you can make a pure melanterite or chalcanthite at home, in the lab, it would be useful to try the processes described in this book with that and see if it yields results. If it does not, it's likely entirely due to it missing those dissolved precious metals, i.e. it is not "living" vitriol, in which case it may be necessary to dope or doctor the vitriol with those precious metals to begin with.
Assuming the sages and alchemists of old knew what iron was and what sulphur was out of the FeSO₄ ⋅ 7H₂O, the only thing they never mention is hydrogen and oxygen. Classical chemistry regards hydrogen also as its prima materia, the beginning of all things so I wonder if there are parallels to be drawn here?
Chiral Crystals are an interesting concept if people read into those along with oxygen breathing metal oxide crystals.
What if alchemists built a crystal of hydrogen and oxygen? A water crystal that wasn't ice?
 

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Assuming the sages and alchemists of old knew what iron was and what sulphur was out of the FeSO₄ ⋅ 7H₂O,
Why wouldn't they? I think it's pretty clearly understood that the different types of vitriols were due in large part to the different parent metals involved, and we have these divisions of metallic vitriols with accurate identification of the parent metal in metallurgy going back as far as the Sumerians. The Sumerians differentiated the different vitriols by name, and the differentiation was based upon the parent metals. Reading later on in the text, they even speak of many of these other vitriols.

Keeping within the topic of this thread, the Hungarian vitriol, that is spoke of in the text, is a mixed vitriol, usually iron/copper, and frequently included precious metals. One could recreate this vitriol thus as that blended melanterite or chalcanthite. Actually on that topic, it was not known in the old world, but Canada has some absolutely excellent sources of such naturally occurring vitriols!

Bornite is one of these really cool vitriol parent materials- commonly known as "peacock ore". Another good one is chalcopyrite. I know people mainly think of iron pyrite and marcasite as suitable parent ores, but these ones could be investigated as well. In Australia, some of the chalcopyrite coforms with gold.
 

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Assuming the sages and alchemists of old knew what iron was and what sulphur was out of the FeSO₄ ⋅ 7H₂O, the only thing they never mention is hydrogen and oxygen. Classical chemistry regards hydrogen also as its prima materia, the beginning of all things so I wonder if there are parallels to be drawn here?
Chiral Crystals are an interesting concept if people read into those along with oxygen breathing metal oxide crystals.
What if alchemists built a crystal of hydrogen and oxygen? A water crystal that wasn't ice?

Extracts from "How to be an Alchemist", by François Jollivet-Castelot (recommended by Mr. Vladimir):

The apparent Dualism or Complexity of the Universe cannot be reconciled if we trace things back
to the Absolute Origin. At this origin, which can only be ascribed to each nebula individually (since
the absolute origin of Nature appears to be an inconceivable hypothesis, given that Nature, being
Infinite, is so in the Past as in the future) each representing a World, only Unity could exist, a
progressive Unity which was and is the Ether, father of Hydrogen, from which arise Oxygen,
Nitrogen, Carbon, etc. (combinations resulting from etheric vortices).
Hydrogen was and is truly Hermaphrodite (like the Substance itself), giving birth to Dualism, the
Trinity, and all Multiplicity through its various groupings and degrees of condensation.
In summary, the process of Creation could be imagined as follows:
Ether (the elementary, latent form of electricity, that is, positive and negative charges; the
primordial form of all energies) gives rise to Hydrogen, possibly preceded by Helium, then
elements such as Phosphorus, Nitrogen (or Ammonia), Carbon, Oxygen, Chlorine, Sulfur,
Selenium, Tellurium, and so on. These elements can be understood as polymeric combinations of
Hydrogen (or Helium), though they are perhaps more accurately seen as products of evolved Ether.

Below we present Strindberg’s theories and experiments, drawn from the correspondence he
kindly sent us over two years—whose highly original style we preserve.
***
In one of his early letters, the learned chemist wrote this about metals:
“For a material, to exist means only to exist at a given moment, under a given temperature and
pressure. Thus lead (atomic weight 207) can attenuate to 200 under heat, so that molten lead
becomes mercury (= 200), and at even higher temperature, silver (= 107).
Proof: I melt lead, add sulfur, and in a moment I see cinnabar. Once the crucible cools, there is
lead sulfide.
I bought ordinary lead, melted it, and poured the molten lead into boiling nitric acid. Upon analysis,
I found traces of silver. Therefore, molten lead, being silver at that moment, alloys with nitric acid.
I am aware that all lead contains a little silver, and that nearly all silver is extracted from lead ore;
but I am convinced that lead transmutes into silver, and that silver is produced each time it is
extracted from lead ore. The same holds for making gold. You know that all of its gold was
extracted from iron sulfide ore before the mines of Australia and California were discovered. I
believe so because the atomic weight of gold = 197, and the molecular weight of Fe₃S = 197.
Therefore, gold has always been made!”
 

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Strength to you Illen A. Cluf. May your wife pass peacefully and comfortably with you beside her and without fear in the knowledge that her spirit will be freed from mortal matter and its suffering and she will fly freely as a butterfly fresh from its transformation. Love transcends all distance in space and time, it connects people forever wherever they are. Hold on strong to that love.